“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Two points. The joke is highly relevant. If you realized thoroughly that your physical world was an illusion, you would not be experiencing sense data.

([Gene]: “Can’t I experience an illusion that I create for myself?”)

You can experience the illusion, but when you experience the illusion as an illusion, you no longer experience it. You are running ahead of yourself.

([Gene]: “Is there anywhere else to be that is not illusion?”)

([Gene]: “How would I know the difference? Is there any way to distinguish between illusion and reality other than by a creation of my own mind?”)

You do not know it now. When that point is reached, you will be able, if you prefer, to experience any “Reality-Illusion" at your will, but the self who experiences these “reality-illusions" will know itself as reality. There is no place for it to go, because it is the only reality and will create its own environment.

You must still be able to experience any one of these illusions. Knowing they are illusory with full knowledge of their nature and still know that the basic reality is yourself. There is no place to go, because you are the place, in those terms, and all places. But the joke is relevant. The most important thing I have said to you this evening is that the joke is relevant.

I am using terms of continuity now simply for explanation. First there must be a period, and then it has passed, when you are completely immersed in a given system as if no other existed. Value fulfillment AS A RULE being achieved in this manner. This does not mean you are not dwelling in other systems simultaneously. The illusion must be probed to its depth.

([Gene]: ? “The discontinuous tragedy is an illusion, isn’t it?”)

([Gene]: “Of course. Think of the classical statue of Shiva standing on the crushed baby—a loving participation in the illusion of tragedy. Even in the illusion of self-delusion.”)